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June 17, 2008


The Unshortable Cascade

There are no stock index futures in China so it’s impossible to take advantage of the dramatic decline underway here. This is the 15-minute chart — the weekly and daily trends are all down so it’s just a matter of hitting it every time it reverses on the smaller time frames. Sadly there is no way to short.

13 Responses to “The Unshortable Cascade”

  1. anon said:

    How does this end up, do you think?

    Lost decade like Japan, or something better?

  2. Steve Place said:

    FXI, or FXP are the closest securities I can think of.

    Also, I’ve currently got a put cal spread on CHL

  3. C. Maoxian said:

    @anon: No idea, I’m not a macro guy, that’s a 15-minute chart, lol.

    @Steve: I’d like exposure to all the junk listed on the A-share exchange… the FXI is a group of the best of the best if you see what I mean.

  4. Lawrence Chiu said:

    You can short CAF which is Morgan Stanley’s China ETF. It is down 50% last 12 months.

  5. Dan said:

    CAF’s charter is to invest in mostly A-share securities as well…

  6. Brant said:

    Hong Kong has the Hang Seng Index futures - not sure if this is something close to what you’re looking for.

  7. Jay said:

    The rumor is that the preparation for stock index future, margin and short are all underway. Without these vehicles, it is boring in A-Shares. On the other hand, Chairman, you could hang out and bring us more A.R.T. :-)

  8. C. Maoxian said:

    @Lawrence & Dan: I’m aware of CAF but haven’t checked how well it tracks the A-shares, maybe I’ll look into that today and write a post about it.

    @Brant: I know about the futures offered in Hong Kong but that’s a completely different market.

    @Jay: They’ve been saying all that for years and years now, but never act (the same story for many desperately needed reforms here).

  9. Jay said:

    I think they get more serious this time. But now, buying IPO’s in auction is the only safe bet.

  10. C. Maoxian said:

    Jay: I doubt that they’re going to begin to allow short-selling as the market continues to collapse … the time for that reform was last year when everyone was riding high and even my manicurist’s net worth (briefly) surpassed my own.

  11. Prospectus said:

    If they allowed short sales, there would be more volatility and more countertrend rallies. With no buyers (either longs or covering shorts) it’s just one slow march to the bottom.

  12. C. Maoxian said:

    Prospectus: Yes, that’s probably true. Short selling should be strongly encouraged and supported by everyone, including regulators. It makes for a much healthier market.

  13. speed said:

    Every strange thing happens in the unshortable market can be applied by the big-fish-vs-small-fry theory. The big fish is the market operator and player two as one. If a new drug can promote the efficiency of the small fry so that it can escape from the big fish more quickly, will the big fish approve it?

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