January 8, 2008
US Sectors Relative Percent Change Over the Last Year
Nice graphic that shows the tasty sectors: banks, real estate, diversified financials; you know, all the ones I love and that have been handing investors (including me) their asses. Timing is everything (and thank god I own a lot of Energies).
(Source: CSFB)
Cat: | Time: 11:12 am (utc+8)
January 9th, 2008 at 6:37 am
neat chart, who’d you swipe it from?
or as the wikipedia say, citation!
;-)
January 9th, 2008 at 6:39 am
oops! meant to write:
or as the wikipedia nerds say, citation!
January 9th, 2008 at 7:52 am
Babak: CSFB, and thanks for “reminding” me to source it.
January 9th, 2008 at 7:58 am
Chairman:
I respectfully suggest you bounce out of energies and into financials or mm. Buy low sell high
Regards,
Jim
January 9th, 2008 at 8:16 am
Jim: I’m already waist (waste?) deep in financials, having bought low and watched them fall much much lower.
January 9th, 2008 at 9:41 am
hmmmm…
I woulds suggest construction materials as the next short- any good suggestions?
Food products on inflation pass through difficulties?
January 9th, 2008 at 10:19 am
I’ve been holding a slug of financials also. I just don’t want to be ‘caught in the headlights’ - though it may be too late for that.
January 9th, 2008 at 10:36 am
Babak: Like Marty Whitman and Al Zucaro (and Bank of America), we haven’t been caught in the headlights, we’ve been run over and then the car backed up to crush us again… I have just been massively, horribly wrong about these financials (or as I say after a couple drinks, “I’m just early”, or as Whitman might say “while the near-term situation may seem dire, we are patient, long-term investors willing to ride out short-term volatility”).
January 9th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
I’m afraid we haven’t hit bottom yet in the financial sector. The recession in the US will start generating foreclosures in the prime market as well as commercial real estate. I expect to see some major banks fail before the year is done.
January 9th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
igor: Yes, the bottom is looking like zero in a lot of things I have the misfortune of owning.
January 14th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
look at the monthy charts roc and rsi are in bad shape .if you want i will post a few charts. in other words its a punt .As for the outside investors buying stakes in the banks .the banks could get a better deal off a loanshark
January 14th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
angelo: Your last name wouldn’t happen to be Mozilo, would it? :)
January 21st, 2008 at 1:53 am
“I’m already waist (waste?) deep in financials, having bought low and watched them fall much much lower”
CM: So I am curious, what does a past day trader like yourself do when you have watched these financials sink and sink further? Do you hold and close your eyes, or sell at a loss and start trading actively again (ie maybe with your new black box)?
January 21st, 2008 at 7:36 am
Eric: I’ve always understood the difference between trading and investing, so when an investment goes bad I treat it very differently from when a trade goes bad. This means when something I own like WM (or Sun Micro, Exodus, and a zillion other dot coms) falls dramatically from where I bought it, I simply write it off completely — I don’t mean sell it, I mean forget about it, which happily I can afford to do.
January 21st, 2008 at 7:50 am
CM: “Forget about it” sounds like good advice for my uranium mining portfolio - at least to decrease anxiety anyways. Did you make most of your wealth day trading or investing?
January 21st, 2008 at 8:00 am
Eric: I made my money the old-fashioned way: inherited it, married it, and stole it (in that order). I learned from my dot com experience not to pay stupid prices for things, and I’ve learned from the recent credit crisis experience that even when you think you’re paying a smart price for something, it can turn out to be a stupid price in the end.
January 21st, 2008 at 1:34 pm
CM: stole it? ;-) Now you have to divulge to all your faithful readers, myself include, HOW?
January 21st, 2008 at 3:06 pm
brandon: Ain’t gonna happen. :)
January 22nd, 2008 at 2:05 am
Eric: I made my money the old-fashioned way: inherited it, married it, and stole it (in that order).
Well at least that explains your politics ;-)