Episode 11 ... Zach Hurwitz (123:31)
- 10 AM to Noon, no calls, no appointments for Zach
- Tufts, class of 2008, transitioned from English major to Econ major
- Started trading during a volatile time
- 2008, 2009, 2010 ... algos began impacting the markets
- Retail guys need both screen time and coding time
- Lost all his initial trading stake in six weeks in 2008
- Had a visceral connection with chart patterns
- Two classes that helped him with trading: AP English and Drama
- In 2010 introduced to quant trader, "David," randomly met
- Lives in Ohio, middle of nowhere, just got lucky meeting "David"
- His analyst says "trust the process" [Zach goes to psychotherapy?]
- [Zach tends to ramble on at length, but he's likable....]
- David tip: some days you have to be the mouse (detail oriented), some days the eagle (visionary), some days the donkey (do grunt work)
- No trader wants to admit he's a beginner
- Non-traders think day trading is glamorous, but they're wrong
- Trading is "quiet, lonely struggle ... and it's hard" [I like it]
- Poisonous self-talk during dark hours of trading
- A trader is the boss, the employee and the janitor, all in one
- Have to learn to identify when you are being ridiculous
- You can't learn to trade if you can't spend 40 hours a week on it
- Risk management, position sizing ... these can be learned
- Trading psychology, controlling yourself, is the thing you can't really learn
- Step one is being honest with yourself
- A trading coach is not a cheerleader
- We are in charge of deceiving ourselves
- Spending 20 hours a day six days a week to make $40K (40% on 100K), you feel like a jerk
- VWAP is his holy grail, the thing that made sense to him, would have quit in 2011 if he hadn't found it
- Zach is 28 years old now
- Zerohedge and Brian Shannon of Alphatrends turned him on to VWAP
- VWAP was available on the ThinkOrSwim platform so he could explore it
- VWAP -- Volume Weighted Average Price ... like the ultimate "moving average"
- VWAP originally built to benchmark execution quality
- All indicators are arbitrary
- ["Let me go off on a little tangent here...."]
- Chat with Traders podcast is a killer resource
- It's easier to learn from watching a developing athlete, not a pro
- Good traders like good athletes, they make it look easy
- VWAP looks like a moving average and acts like a pivot
- VWAP responsive in a morning, dull in middle of the day, then picks up again at end of day (because it's volume weighted :) )
- VWAP gives you your bias for the day
- ["Forgive me for the meandering and tangentials..."]
- VWAP will lead you to trade the most liquid names
- People who want to trade stocks "in play" should be slapped in the face [who, moi?]
- Mentions Mitch Hedberg ... Zach sounds a bit like a non-stoned Mitch, no?
- Most people fly around as an eagle, spend a minute as a mouse, and never get around to being the donkey
- VWAP best for intraday, mega-cap traders
- Zach is now a systematic trade, no longer discretionary
- Trading is lonely and difficult, it's invaluable to have a trading comrade
- ["I'll turn this into a four hour podcast!"]
- Not much good, free VWAP information out there ... not many people using it every day
- Brian Shannon is excellent, a wonderful educator, and a nice guy
- Zach uses ThinkOrSwim, likes it, but is not paid for referrals ... just use the demo account
- Your family and friends will think you are just playing video games, but day trading is incredibly hard, needs to be respected
- "You're clicking buttons just like every other schmo out there"
- Most people don't pay attention -- they don't pay attention to others, themselves or the market
- Give up on your unrealistic dreams of the Bugatti ... focus on your realistic dreams
- Stop worrying about where you enter a trade, just get in if you think it's going higher
- He uses shorter term 14 period RSI in conjunction with VWAP, but only for confirmation
- You want a consistent approach
- You want to take what you know works, and have it put into code
- finviz dot com has a good filter ... start there
- ThinkOrSwim has great beginning coding language
- If an English major like him can learn to code, so can you
- Ten years ago you'd have to know MatLab, not so today, barriers to entry have fallen
- If you think everything is going to fall into your lap, you're going to blow up
- Failing traders have not mastered even one thing, they bounce around
- Trading is a predatory business ... you're a baby duckling and there are hawks out there
- Find earnest, honest, real people to talk to about trading [I know of one or two on Twitter]
- You don't want to be a jack of all trades, master of none
- "If you want to be here for the good days, you have to be here for all the days" -- Ben Lichtenstein
- Discretionary traders are all bald ... they drive themselves crazy
- Recommends Reminiscences of a Stock Operator, all the Market Wizards books
- "I'm not just trying to blow smoke up your skirt" [when singing Aaron's praises]
- Make your eagle vision a reality by being the mouse and donkey
- Are you life-changing rich by quadrupling your account? No, so stop trying to do that
- Lower the stakes for yourself !
- Nobody is your overseer as a trader ... you have to control yourself
- More traders collapse mentally than financially
- "You choose your tuition in the market"
- When you don't feel bad about losing trades, you've won
- Don't make it harder on yourself than it has to be
- ["Thank you for indulging my meandering ... babbling for two hours"]
- Twitter: @ZachHurwitz