Episode 116 ... Sean Hendelman (65:44)
Good episode ... Hendelman "bursts a lot of bubbles," but he's right on the money, knows of what he speaks.
- University of Michigan grad
- Got an MBA at Stern (NYU)
- Sounds like a New Yorker
- Started on mortgage-backed securities desk
- Greenwich Capital Markets
- 1999 decided to start a trading business
- Started with $50,000, lost within 3-4 months
- Kept at it
- Took him 18 months to get good
- Founded Nexus Capital (2003) -- 40 traders [like an arcade?]
- Read a lot of Peter Lynch in high school
- Interested in trading in 1993-1994, while in high school
- Worked as tennis instructor at country club, made good money (15K a summer)
- Bought names he liked (Peter Lynch advice): DELL CSCO MSFT ORCL
- Put all his tennis money ($5-$10K) in each of above stocks, made massive money during dot com bubble
- Luckily took all money out before bubble burst and bought NYC apartment, turned cash poor
- Thought he was a genius
- Made six figures at Greenwich Capital, which was good, able to save
- Expensive to learn how to trade
- SDLI QCOM, buying thousand share lots [Only old guys remember symbols like SDLI, JDSU :)]
- Started hedge fund in 2002-2003, stat arb fund, broke even, expensive to run
- Running $15MM, not enough to make it work, too many expenses
- First $50K loss was a great first learning experience
- Not a math guy, not a programmer, doesn't know C++
- Backs 25% of traders in his firm on prop side, other 3/4 self-fund
- Traders in his firm have all kinds of styles
- T3 name of his firm
- T3 has 1,000 active accounts
- Has two broker-dealers, one prop, one retail
- Need series 57 license to use prop broker-dealer
- T3 makes money on commissions, interest, profit splits
- T3 only caters to active traders, competes with IB and TradeStation
- Holdbacks and payouts of the trader's capital
- Not focused on futures or forex -- don't understand, too much leverage
- T3 can't spend enough money on infrastructure to compete with HFTs anymore
- Co-location of servers, routing, data, compliance, best of the best programmers -- all expensive
- T3's HFT successful 2004 to 2014, now much harder
- HFT very crowded now
- Hudson River, Virtu hired lots of people, built big organizations
- T3 takes liquidity, no passive orders
- 99% of all bids and offers aren't real [yes, I've found this too]
- Flashing and spoofing very common
- HFT never take liquidity at size, would show their hand
- No more low hanging fruit in high frequency trading
- Scott Redler his partner, "Red Dog Reversal," lives highly structured life
- Everything gets priced in very quickly now
- Medium frequency strategies also being priced in very quickly
- Medium frequency not as expensive, no need for co-location, etc.
- Medium frequency traders' success rates very low
- Most don't understand market impact or slippage (+commissions)
- Never backtest, always forward test, use 100 shares, take a few thousand trades, will have realistic market impact data
- Tiny number of medium frequency guys successful and when they are, profits only last a short time [I'm sure he's right]
- CalTech MIT guys are already exploiting every obvious edge
- There are no edges out there ... they have better tech and programmers than you
- Your ideas aren't good enough, someone else already tried and discarded them long ago
- Your ideas after market impact, commissions, paying the spread, won't make money
- Best black box traders are constantly changing, evolving strategies
- 1 in 20 smart traders who try to automate things succeed
- Medium frequency is the same as an active trader
- Will take you a long time and lots of capital to even test your ideas
- Double your commissions and slippage estimates
- Good strategy might have 50% success rate after six months and tweaking
- T3 has 50 strategies running live
- Laughs when people say they didn't run their strategy with real money
- Successful hand traders' pattern recognition still ahead of black boxes
- Momentum traders (buying and selling within minutes) going away, black boxes taken all the profits away
- Good traders don't get excited when they make money
- No emotion with a black box, faster than humans, can prepare well in advance
- Best business advice: Change. Adapt. Don't be afraid to make mistakes. Money in, money out -- positive cash flow
- Best trading advice: Risk management, emotions in check. Preparation.
- Best traders are in the office earliest, reading, adapting to the market
- Don't try to beat the market, you're never going to do it
- www.t3live.com