Episode 118 ... Manoj Narang (58:47)
Sharp guy, interesting episode.
- Has new fund: "MANA Partners"
- Formerly of Tradeworx (left July 2015)
- Quant trading the way to go
- IP has more value than PL you can generate (does that make sense?)
- Bringing high frequency trading to asset management investors
- Double digit Sharpe ratios, most not comfortable with this
- Started at First Boston, 1991, equity derivatives desk
- Front office technologist supporting trading desk
- 8-9 year career on Wall Street
- Knew nothing about Wall Street when in college
- Never took a statistics class, finance class, economics class
- Studied theoretical math and computer science (algorithms, graph theory)
- Reasoning quantitatively and thinking logically are the key skills
- Algorithmic trading is a quantitative challenge
- At Goldman Sachs in late 90s, favorite job, phenomenally smart people
- Trading manually back then was exhausting, nothing electronic
- Burned out, wanted to start tech firm
- Online brokerages to 40% market share in late 1990s, boom
- Early adopter of Datek, 1996
- Could build tools to help mainstream investors
- Started Tradeworx
- "Analytical decision support tools"
- 2001 -- Dot com bubble burst, 9/11 happened, everything changed
- Tradeworx became a hedge fund then
- Why would a hedge fund commercialize its technology?
- 2008 a difficult year for hedge funds, Lehman demise
- Started high frequency trading in 2008
- Eventually became a large high frequency trading firm by volume
- Example of valuable IP: intraday trading signals, "MIDAS" bought by SEC to monitor markets
- Early adopter of Amazon Web Services, tick data storage
- Consolidated audit trail, successor of "OATS" owned by FINRA
- Giving regulators investigative powers in modern, fragmented markets
- Thesys, an offshoot of Tradeworx, won audit trail contract
- Quantitative trading -- hypercompetitive, zero-sum
- Paranoid conspiracy theories abound about high frequency trading
- Inequality is a natural aspect of any system
- Engineer systems to compete after studying the rules (which are complicated)
- Questions of fairness, but it's really about discrepancies of skill [one way to rationalize it]
- Simplify the regulatory regime, too many rules to understand
- Proprietary traders are largest beneficiaries of HFT, then it trickles down
- Fragmented markets glued together by HFT
- Several dozen trading venues, both lit and dark
- Quantitative investing strategies now very crowded
- All quants use the same data, same inputs, so use of non-traditional data now key, such as:
- Twitter firehose, e*commerce data now mined, satellite imagery
- Discretionary managers not worth the fees they charge
- If you charge high fees, must empirically show you deserve them, no one can
- RenTech, successful quant hedge fund, all employee owned now, no outside money
- Secular trend towards mechanization, automation of investing process
- Look for patterns in non-traditional data
- Renaissance in artificial intelligence now, "machine learning"
- Quantitative trading is tolerant of noise
- Statistically orthogonal signals
- Humans control the capital, not the quants
- Quants have super short holding periods, generally
- New datasets have very limited histories, so model building from them also limited
- Investment success comes from bucking the trend
- AQR, DE Shaw, RenTech ... you won't succeed if you try to copycat them
- Think for yourself
- www.mana-partners.com