Notes for Chat with Traders, Episode 119

Added on by C. Maoxian.

Episode 119 -- @TAGRtrades (60:51)

  • "Alex"
  • Interested in trading in college, age 19 or 20
  • Waiting tables, summer job
  • Opened e*trade account with 2 or 3K savings
  • Dad suggested ag stocks
  • Retired Dad has CNBC on all the time
  • Grew up with Jim Cramer shouting on TV in background
  • Never thought about being a trader
  • Sounds like a Southerner, Texas maybe?
  • Worked in software
  • Used Yahoo Finance for research
  • Serious beginner's luck, made 20-30% on first trades
  • Solar stocks going nuts
  • Read message boards
  • Earthy guy all behind this solar thing
  • Put all his money in one small solar stock [doesn't say symbol]
  • Hands shaking, up 20K in one day
  • Frozen excited and scared
  • Told his wife he was quitting his job and going full time
  • Went 8 for 10 when he didn't know what he was doing
  • 25 years old, had some savings, wife had nanny job, no downside
  • We're going to get rich quickly!
  • Selling parents and in-laws on day trading much harder
  • Plowed through dozens of trading books
  • Had a written trading plan from the start
  • Quickly realized he didn't know what he was doing
  • Google search: how to make money in small caps
  • He did have security of being able to go back to software job, but never has
  • Spent thousands on alert services, chat rooms, DVDs
  • Learned horrible habits: averaging down
  • Red months for first six months
  • Green months ever since (not huge green but green)
  • Wife working, one check coming in, cut expenses way down
  • No steak and champagne dinners with the occasional winner [or cigars]
  • He did have a dollar figure in mind where he'd quit 
  • Tried trading options or futures -- whole 'nother world
  • Tried to short, didn't suit his personality
  • Learning experiences of what not to do
  • Talks a lot about trading with his wife [she must be an angel]
  • He didn't know what he didn't know, just made the leap
  • Wouldn't want his kids to trade -- the work is just too hard
  • Risked 2% in early trades, so he never blew up
  • Never once traded on margin, so he never blew up
  • You never hear from loser traders once they blow up, they disappear
  • First two years, profit curve: big spikes, big drops
  • Averaging down is still his biggest fault
  • Took a year to figure out averaging down is terrible thing to do
  • Good, knowledgeable chat guys are really helpful [but rare]
  • Nobody cares about how you manage a trade, or control your emotions
  • Track your progress, "journaling"
  • Must figure out what works for *you*
  • Get into the hot sector, you have a bid under you [a tailwind]
  • Chat with Traders podcasts were super useful to him
  • Constantly trying to evolve
  • Looks for specific set-ups, at specific times of day
  • 3-4 stocks in play
  • Plays small cap garbage stocks that will eventually do an offering
  • Been trading for four years but considers himself new
  • Chart set-ups that work intraday also work on longer time frames
  • "Grade A" setup -- something going bananas, looks for sector sympathy plays
  • Scales in and scales out
  • Gotten good at controlling his emotions, seeing chart clearly
  • Favors longs over shorts due to his personality
  • Doesn't want 11 good years of trading, and then blow out with one trade
  • What if your computer turns off and you're in over your head?
  • Used to play off scanners or people's trade alerts, no more
  • Comes in with 3-4 stocks each day, sets stop levels where trade no longer makes sense
  • He will put a third of his account in a single trade
  • Knows where he's going to get out
  • Takes starter positions then builds position
  • Tries to go home green every day
  • Hard to let winners run, psychologically hard *not* to take profits
  • First trade is smallest then larger then larger, as soon as it works take part off
  • Size is based on your confidence
  • Spends $1000+ a month on scanners and charts
  • Microsoft OneNote for trading journal + Excel spreadsheet
  • Time consuming to enter each trade but worth it
  • Works from home, just talks to himself all day [thus wife's suggestion to join Twitter]
  • Final notes at end of day
  • EdgeWonk, enters detailed information, time of day -- useful tool -- coupon code "traders"
  • Can find one or two trades a day
  • Wants to slowly increase his size
  • Still has never traded with margin
  • Does zero swing or position trading
  • Journal tells him that he shouldn't trade stocks under a dollar
  • Figure out what you're comfortable doing, must fit your personality
  • Can't fit in somebody else's mold
  • Just grind, no margin
  • www.tagrtrades.com
  • Twitter: @TAGRtrades