Episode 139 ... Bobby Cho (39:38)
- Worked for Restricted Stock Partners which became Second Market, eventually bought by Nasdaq
- Traded illiquid assets for these firms, trying to value esoteric stuff, on desk for six years
- Discovered Bitcoin: just another opaque, illiquid market at the end of 2013
- Worked for itBit, Bitcoin exchange domiciled in Singapore
- Bitcoin missing infrastructure back then
- Must establish exchange if you want to get institutional money into Bitcoin
- itBit got first digital currency trust company charter, New York State Department of Financial Services-regulated
- Gemini is the second company to go the trust company charter route
- Now he works for DRW / Cumberland Mining
- Lion's share of volume they do is Bitcoin and Ethereum
- Cumberland Mining desk can handle institutional-sized cryptocurrency trades that exchanges can't handle
- First thing you have to do is read the White Paper on Bitcoin
- Bitcoin is a 24-7, global market
- DRW Trading has a number of verticals: trading (HFT), real estate, venture capital, cryptocurrencies
- Curious people are attracted to cryptocurrencies
- Don Wilson is entrepreneurial and curious
- Cumberland Mining -- no investors, shareholders or clients -- just trade their own book
- Cumberland Mining was started in 2014
- Market making in Bitcoin for block transactions, exchanges can't handle that size
- Bitcoin is a push function, once you send it, it's gone ... scary to institutional investors
- Bitcoin price discovery is still fluid, 200+ separate exchanges worldwide
- Custody is the major issue with Bitcoin ... where to go for it?
- Institutional investors get nervous about custody issues, very leery of cryptocurrencies as a result
- Top ten cryptocurrency exchanges all domiciled in different locations with different regulatory requirements
- Liquidity completely fragmented
- Every exchange has a different fee structure
- Difficult even to wire money in and out of exchanges, different fees for each exchange
- KYC -- Know Your Customer ... all about compliance with anti-money laundering regulations
- People are trying to arbitrage Bitcoin among exchanges, but not much of an edge there
- People drawn to Bitcoin at first by the price volatilily -- pure speculation
- Core investors in Bitcoin understand the technology, the ease of use, they're believers, not speculators
- Bobby is just a Bitcoin market maker, won't speculate on its long term outlook
- Twitter: @robertjcho