Notes for Chat with Traders, Episode 153

Added on by C. Maoxian.

Episode 153 ... Xiao Qiao (64:39)

  • Studied engineering, math, finance, statistics 
  • [Is he first generation Chinese-American or did he grow up in China? Moved to America as a child? Fluent English, but non-native to my ear] 
  • Liked Applied Mathematics
  • Both parents are engineers (Dad a mechanical engineer)
  • Did materials science engineering, didn't like working in a lab
  • Went to grad school for finance, Ph.D. program, University of Chicago
  • Probability theory, applied statistics, linear algebra
  • Asset pricing research
  • Preferred to go into industry rather than become an academic
  • Was teaching assistant for Eugene Fama in his asset pricing class
  • Fama demanded that students be both precise and concise
  • Lars Hansen taught him to take economics seriously, always apply economic thinking
  • Five years to complete a Ph.D. in finance at Chicago
  • Enjoyed playing blackjack in college
  • Blair Hull's personal assistant emailed him about market timing paper Hull was writing
  • Hit it off with Blair Hull, agreed to co-author paper on market timing
  • A Practitioner's Defense of Return Predictability
  • Team play for blackjack important, MIT team employed this method
  • Don't play if you don't have an edge
  • Bet table minimum when the house has the edge
  • Bet size hugely important once you have an edge
  • Most people who try to play to win don't have an edge
  • Academic research divided about market timing 
  • Return predictability (can we forecast returns?)
  • Forecasting equity premium, combining return predictors
  • Modeling six month ahead excess returns
  • Examples of return predictors: PE ratio, CAKE ratio, variance risk premium, etc. 
  • Forecasting horizon shortened to one month for next white paper
  • Return Predictability and Market-Timing: A One-Month Model  
  • Reads a lot of academic research papers for his current job
  • Likes Frank Diebold's blog
  • [I guess he went to U Penn undergrad]
  • [Losing listeners in the late 30 minutes mark as talk strays into CAPM]
  • Try ideas yourself, don't just read about ideas
  • Simple linear regression goes a long way toward telling you if your hypothesis is any good
  • Lower frequency risk premiums: holding period in months, execution doesn't matter much
  • R, Python, Matlab code will be fast enough to implement
  • Higher frequency trading: holding period is intraday or days... execution becomes very important
  • Execution is where you make a significant fraction of your profits if your holding period is short
  • C++ necessary then ... code needs to be fast enough to trade in real time
  • Backtests are inevitably overfitted ... need to use out of sample data to test your model
  • Look at: Returns, Cumulative returns, Sharpe Ratios, Volatility, Cumulative Drawdown, Maximum Drawdown, Tail Correlation
  • Tail events, extreme events ... look how your model does during these
  • Trading costs, transaction costs, turnover, slippage are supremely important ... academics ignore these factors ("market microstructure")
  • Intermediaries are all-important, can make or break your returns ... practitioners are well aware of this, academics ignore it
  • Risk premiums important, but market impact, liquidity equally important
  • Rebalancing a portfolio during illiquid periods will affect returns
  • Frequency of rebalancing also important
  • His website 
  • This Xiao Qiao should not be confused with Zhou Yu's wife, the anime girl
  • He is not on Twitter