Episode 158 ... Phil Goedeker (62:01)
- During earnings season, small caps don't run
- Wanted to make big money before his 30s, didn't want to do a lot of schooling
- Only two routes: real estate and the stock market
- Opened first brokerage account as sophomore in college with $3,000, lost it all
- Studied everything he could, but couldn't find any consistency
- Next summer's earnings of $3,000, lost it all during junior year
- Didn't have patience to buy and hold
- Finally discovered short selling as a senior in college
- CAFE ("Host America") went from $5 to $15
- He shorted as much as he could
- CAFE was halted for a month, he was scared to death
- CAFE opened at $5 from $15 and he made $15,000 [CAFE delisted in 2005]
- Started shorting overhyped stocks exclusively during senior year
- Turned $5,000 into $1,000,000 between August (2005?) and May (2006?)
- He went all-in on every position he took, no rules, would just hope for the best
- Graduated with an accounting degree, but knew he'd never be an accountant
- Lost $500,000 by August (2006?) ... was "clueless"
- Got scared, took $400,000 out, put it in the bank, kept $100,000 for his trading bankroll -- 22 years old
- "Well hell"
- Every month, whatever he made from the $100,000 trading stake, he'd put in the bank
- Went next three to four years making half a million dollars a year -- 25 to 26 years old
- Studied all the big winning stocks on a yearly, monthly, weekly basis -- till he was "blue in the face"
- Drove a Hummer H2
- He went through everything, every mistake, every high, every low
- Never had another job other than day trading since sophomore year in college -- 13 or 14 years now
- Wanted to make $30,000-$40,000 a month with his $100,000
- Had one losing year in his late twenties when he strayed from his old style
- Went back to his old style (shorting small caps) and went back to making big money
- "Well hell"
- Tried his best to eliminate his big losing trades, "cut his losses faster"
- Increased position size on his golden setups and cut losses faster -- had even better years
- Late 2017 had some golden setups: HMNY from $2 to $37; RIOT from sub-$10 to $46 -- "hype bubbles" [charts below]
- Only plays from the short side
- Momentum names are manipulated, low float (less than five million shares), press releases to pump them up
- Cryptocurrencies are the same -- low float plus hype
- Halt risk a major concern on these plays -- need to be cautious on the long side
- Timing the shorts is difficult -- shorted 100,000 shares HMNY from $8.50, got out in high $9s -- took the loss
- Starter size (5,000-10,000 shares) in positions -- goes against him, he takes the loss; goes with him, he adds
- Never starts a short and looks to add higher ... never adds to a losing position
- Day three of a parabolic move should be a winning entry, but who knows, it often isn't
- He gets extremely aggravated entering the positon -- takes a lot of small losses
- Pays a lot of attention to volume -- only looks at price, volume, and VWAP
- Big drops on heavy volume is one of the main things he looks for
- Bases his stops off the chart ... tries to find support and resistance levels on chart
- Find your niche as a trader ... find out what you're good at
- Parabolic set-ups are what he's good at ... puts all his money behind those trades
- Timing the crash of these parabolics is the difficult part
- So excited when he sees a parabolic set-up, he can't sleep at night
- 75-80% of his trading income comes from shorting the parabolic moves
- Multi-day versus multi-week versus multi-month runners
- The higher it goes, the more conviction he has, the larger his position size
- Gotten lazy because he has two kids now
- Every year, prints out charts of all the stocks that are the year's biggest low float winners, all "pockets of air"
- Every single one of them has crashed
- Adds to his winners as they collapse, "slamming that bid"
- He might hold a winner for weeks on end
- Only overnight risk he has is a Press Release
- Mentions ETRM from 2016? [now delisted]
- Mentions KBIO ... stock went from $2 to $10 or $12 then went to $40 [now OTC]
- Seen a lot of traders blow up holding low float shorts overnight
- Wait for the backside of the move, "backside" is after it has exhausted itself [no clear definition of "backside" given]
- Slams the bid over and over and over again... he definitely moves the stock by doing this
- 95% of traders fail because they lose money [Ummm] ... they don't have their niche [OK]
- Find out what you're good at and perfect it
- Take it slow, take it in stages as you increase your position size
- Has seven or eight brokers now, essential if you're short-biased
- If you're long-biased, only need one broker
- In order to short the stuff he's shorting, the broker has to have shares available [tell me about it]
- Low float stocks -- most brokers don't have shares available
- If one broker has the shares as easy to borrow, no need to look to his other brokers
- Getting the locate is everything, without multiple brokers, you won't be able to play the low float parabolic game
- Locate fees and fees for holding overnight vary from broker to broker
- Locate fees and overnight fees are extremely high -- will take at least 10-15% of your gross profits
- He was long GBTC, didn't realize it wasn't marginable, when it dropped he got a large margin call
- He has traded beside other good traders who have blown up ... 5-, 10-, 15-year veterans who made one or two mistakes and they're gone
- "You get stubborn and you're done"
- Make sure you have a backup plan ... his is buying farmland in Missouri, then rents it to farmers
- If he blew up tomorrow, he couldn't get a job because day trading is all he has ever done
- He has owned a lot of rental properties and it's a "big pain in the butt," "nightmare tenants"
- "Well hell"
- Hired property managers to deal with tenants, then he had to manage the property managers (another nightmare)
- Farmland, he can't touch the money, and it doesn't take away from his market focus
- Farmland: zero stress, zero time, zero maintenance
- "Thank you, sir."
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