Episode 20 ... Kunal Desai (65:15)
- Likes Costa Rica, it's like "Jurassic Park"
- Dad is an engineer, always dabbled in the stock market, "the worst trader in the world"
- Graduated high school during the dot com boom, everyone was a day trader
- Opened first account with "buyandholdtrading.com"
- Looked for ideas at MSN Money, Jim Jubak
- Lost all his money in less than a week during dot com bust
- Lost all his money again in Global Crossing, Nortel Networks, Lucent Technologies bust
- Had years of this kind of up and down disappointment
- These losses taught him how to be resilient
- Met Paul Singh online
- Indian people love to get free stuff from other Indian people
- Desai had knowledge but no trading methodology
- Had to corral what he knew and make a cookbook, systematize his knowledge
- Build routines to build a trader
- How do you size your position? You have to have a method
- People freeze when they have a loss, deer in headlights, can't get out
- A-ha moments come from competence and then repetition, practice time
- Competence plus screen time, you begin seeing things clearly
- People give up or blow up before they get requisite screen time
- Takes thousands of repetitions, simulated or live or trade reviews, to reach a-ha moment
- Took Desai *years* to get profitable
- Paul Singh, veteran trader, passed down his knowledge to him
- Took another year before he said, yes, I can do this forever
- How long do doctors and lawyers go to school before they make a buck? Years! Trading no different
- Desai trades momentum stocks, a trend trader, both long and short
- Read William O'Neil, made sense to him, better matched his personality than Buffett buy and hold
- Earnings breakouts the most powerful thing he has seen in trading
- Good daily chart an absolute necessity
- Earnings surpises are the best, people rush in
- High relative volume makes patterns very clean
- Being a generalist will not make you money
- Master one or two things, better than knowledge of 20 or 30 things
- Mastery takes the thinking out of a trade
- Once a stock gets in play, you trade it both long and short, keep it on your radar
- Must understand your own personality, what you're comfortable with, what fits you
- If you're uncomfortable, you're not going to trade well
- Find something that you "vibe" with
- He can't tame himself, he's a wild, aggressive man and accepts that
- He has max loss on his trading account, $2,000 a day is his max ... stops trading at -$2,000 mark
- Live to fight another day
- When you see the market well, push it
- Give back rule: if you give back half your gains, cut yourself off
- He experiences FOMO a lot, worse for him than taking losses
- "You chase, you die" -- condition yourself to know this
- Market gives you endless opportunities, "on to the next one"
- "Skills are cheap, passion is priceless" ... don't get into trading for the money
- People without passion give up at the first sign of trouble
- Long, rocky road to trading success ... need passion to get through it
- It takes years and years and years before you make any money
- You can't date, you miss weddings, birthday parties, etc.
- You have to work like a dog, long hours, huge cost
- Desai had desk job while he was learning how to trade, he was obsessed with trading though
- His successful students all have incredible resilience
- "Oh shit, this is going to be hard." People quit.
- People get frustrated and give up, even with the simulator
- Once people start live trading, their money is on the line, they go to dark places, the resilient make it
- Lots of talented people just give up once they get knocked down
- You are not trading chart patterns, you are trading your hopes and dreams
- Can't learn how to trade when you need the money from trading
- Every good trader is in good shape, no fatties, "get your pump on"
- He needs to trade with a beach view, helps him maintain his perspective
- Whoever you are, it will come out in your trading, get to the root of it
- Everbody knows the patterns, everybody knows what to do, but only 1% can actually do it
- bullsonwallstreet.com (est. 2008)
- You need a mentor, a community, to learn how to trade
- "My man!"
- Twitter: kunal00