Notes for Chat with Traders, Episode 29

Added on by C. Maoxian.

Episode 29 ... Brian Shannon (63:13)

  • As a kid, watched Wall Street Week with his doctor Dad on Friday nights
  • Made money as a kid from caddying and delivering newspapers
  • First stock he ever bought was LoJack, made $6,000, hooked him for life, "why work?"
  • Grew up in Massachusetts?
  • First job after college as a stockbroker
  • Passed Series 7, realized job was glorified telemarketer
  • Went to Lehman Brothers next and learned how to sell
  • Learned how markets worked using other people's money
  • Read the Cabot Market Letter, idea was buying above levels of resistance
  • Read Investors Business Daily, saw prop firm ad that offered 20:1 leverage
  • Made $25,000 deposit with this prop firm
  • Excited with his 48K baud modem trading from his home's basement for the firm
  • Opened office for this NYC-based prop firm in Denver
  • Prop firm made money from commissions
  • People are their own worst enemies in the market
  • Still astounded by dumb decisions he makes even today
  • Chantal Pharmaceuticals, miracle skin cream, stock got halted after hit piece in Barron's
  • Lost $8-$12K overnight in Chantal Pharma ... one lesson he learned along the way, position with too much size
  • In 2000, 2001 market was getting crushed and he was losing pretty consistently, thought about quitting
  • Slowed things down, reduced size dramatically, ground his way back
  • His first six or seven months, he was profitable every month, then he got cocky
  • Trading is an evolution, you always come back to the basic principles
  • "Only price pays. Follow the trend" -- these are his catchphrases
  • Hold yourself accountable, don't blame other things, only yourself
  • Uses multiple time frames
  • Swing trading his preferred time frame
  • Looks at direction of 50-day moving average: uptrend or downtrend
  • Looks for volatility contraction, diminished volume, pullbacks to "support" on daily chart
  • Drops to 30-minute chart next, looks at 5-day moving average on 30-min chart
  • Distance from entry to his initial protective stop, distance to perceived targets measured -- figures his risk : reward
  • Drops to 10-minute chart, looks for an entry that makes sense given all of the above analysis
  • Don't gamble on earnings plays
  • Accountants lie, CEOs lie, only price pays
  • Ego and the need to be right clouds your judgment
  • Fan of using Volume Weighted Average Price -- VWAP -- esp. since some specific event (e.g., the IPO date)
  • Been looking at VWAP for 12 or 13 years
  • Stumbled across VWAP, it spoke to him ... now becoming more widely used by retail traders
  • Stan Weinstein's book, Secrets For Profiting in Bull and Bear Markets, had a huge influence on him
  • "If they don't scare you out, they'll wear you out"
  • Traders tend to be ADD looking for action
  • Time frame must suit your personality ... how much time, capital, and experience do you have?
  • Never start off by day trading, that's something you evolve to, or devolve to [chuckling]
  • Start off with a longer term horizon, like swing trading
  • Swing traders should make more money than day traders
  • Trading is extremely difficult ... anyone who says it's easy is lying ... misleading you for nefarious reasons
  • You need a lot of capital to start
  • People get impatient, make big mistakes before they learn who they are
  • First master yourself (understand yourself and which time frame suits you)
  • Brian says some nice things to Aaron in parting ... Aaron not as polished in these early episodes
  • www.alphatrends.net
  • His book: Technical Analysis Using Multiple Timeframes
  • Twitter: @alphatrends