Notes for Chat with Traders, Episode 32

Added on by C. Maoxian.

Repeat guest ... first heard him on Episode 66, listened out of order. 

Episode 32 ... Dan Shapiro (68:43)

  • Grew up in Brooklyn
  • Lacked direction in life
  • Generic Trading / Carlin Equities (1999-2006),  sold to RBC [in 2007]
  • Borrowed money from neighborhood loan shark
  • Ron Shear at Generic Trading hired him
  • Met Mayer Hoffman, great prop trader (made hundreds of millions)
  • Did well during dot com boom
  • Would just buy the dips and did very well
  • Dot com bust and 9/11 changed everything
  • Didn't make any money for two years
  • Incredibly depressed, would sob himself to sleep
  • End of 2003 started making money again
  • People trading off their iWatches while on vacation on social media (it ain't real)
  • "Here's the deal"
  • Grew up poor in Brighton Beach, mom a manicurist, dad a waiter
  • Tasted success trading during dot com boom, had no Plan B
  • If he didn't succeed at trading, he would have killed himself (he's serious about this)
  • No highs, no lows to trading, it's just work
  • Wife told him he'd have to get a real job
  • Make $100 a day first, then go from there
  • Stocks trade in intervals, like steps in a staircase
  • Stocks go from supply to supply and demand to demand
  • Most stocks are not trade-able
  • Most traders have no patience and no bankroll and no education
  • Looks at 60 minute pivots
  • Figure out who the hell you are
  • Where emotional buyers meet technical sellers: the supply zone
  • The more hands you play, the quicker you'll figure things out
  • He'll only be 6'2" if he puts on his wife's 4" heels -- be realistic
  • Figure out what not to do
  • How do you mentally stay afloat? Turn off your P&L
  • The more emotional you are about a trade, the more you'll mess it up
  • Don't walk away from the table when you're dealt pocket aces
  • Trade the set-up, not your P&L
  • Can't take trading to heart, you have to have a sense of humor
  • The revenge trade does not work, ever
  • You can't cry your money back to you
  • A lot of traders can't accept defeat
  • Lose the battle, not the war
  • The market takes your money and your confidence
  • You don't lose your confidence, it gets transferred to another trader
  • Don't let things snowball, get a massage, go to a sauna, do something nice for yourself
  • Listens to Sade to get depressed which makes him angry which makes him a better trader
  • Makes his money as a swing trader in a trending market
  • Dumb money trades in the morning and smart money trades in the afternoon
  • Will keep a good runner overnight
  • Treat trading like a business, it isn't fun
  • You don't serve filet mignon on a paper plate
  • Mayer Hoffman, Jason Lieber -- they'd tell you if you were trading like a putz
  • Hoffman taught him there's no such thing as overbought
  • "Whatever goes down, should go lower"
  • Price action dictates everything, opinions don't matter
  • Don't fight price action
  • Turn off social media, read good blogs instead, old vets
  • Every trader he knows has blown out, including Mayer
  • He never sells dreams, only reality
  • Don't think you're alone, keep your head up
  • "The rich people don't live in Times Square"
  • Twitter: @DanShep55