Notes for Chat with Traders, Episode 67

Added on by C. Maoxian.

Episode 67 ... "Jerry Parker" (60:57)

  • Parker is one of Richard Dennis's original Turtle Traders

  • 1983 ... Dennis ran ad in Wall Street Journal and New York Times

  • Parker was a public accountant working in Virginia when he saw the ad in the WSJ

  • "Rich" was a very smart and nice person

  • Parker has mild Southern accent

  • Jan. 1984 Parker started trading in Chicago using Rich's money after 2-3 week course

  • 12 people hired

  • "Rich" visited turtle farm in Asia, that's where the turtle nickname comes from, raising traders not turtles

  • 1988 program ended, Parker went out on his own

  • Turtle name has a lot of cachet, everyone knows about it

  • Fall of 1984, second group of really smart nice people, second turtle group even sharper than first

  • Don't get drunk on good performance

  • Parker definitely wanted to exit the accounting business

  • How to size the trades is something he may not have gotten right if not a turtle

  • Trading is hard, trading is uncomfortable, do the hard thing, trade small, don't risk too much

  • Build systems that can last for a long time

  • Trading shouldn't be easy

  • Low win rates, frequently give back all your profits

  • Idea of finding a trading method that fits your personality is silly

  • Finding a trading method that works at all is incredibly hard, forget about your personality

  • Buy the highs, sell the lows

  • Add to winners, never add to losers

  • Lose 30% you'd be in trouble, if you lose 50% you'd be in big trouble

  • Are you following the rules but losing money? It's fine said the mentors

  • 1986 Feb or March and crude was going from 40 to 10 and they were up 200%, looking at a million dollar bonus

  • Experienced a 60% down day, so ended up 140% on the period ... didn't do anything wrong, was just leveraged

  • Wrong means you don't follow the system

  • Only one or two people had a computer and the ability to program it

  • Used moving averages as targets?

  • Trading a few million with Rich was fine, but not hundreds of millions

  • Turtle trading was mathematical, systematic, diversified, rule-based ... no discretion whatsoever

  • Feb. 1988 went out on his own ... involved in grain markets that year

  • Four year track record gave instant credibility

  • People are greedy so they threw money at him

  • 25 markets when he started, now trades 120 futures markets

  • Trades 100 single stock futures

  • We're in a zero interest rate world [interview in 2016], so 12% returns amazing

  • Average holding time of a year

  • His win rate in the low 40s

  • Tries to take optimal losses, not too tight, not too loose ... 20% is too tight

  • Average win 2-3x the average loss

  • 5-10% of your trades will make all the money, it's very hard to stick to it without monkeying

  • What's the sample size in your backtest?

  • Entry parameter, exit parameter, stop loss parameter, that's it... don't add more

  • Don't get fancy and eliminate trades, get the largest sample size possible

  • Don't try to develop systems by market, make something that works in ALL markets

  • You have to go both short and long, adds diversification and increases sample size

  • Risk profile rises dramatically if you just trade one market or trade one side only (long or short)

  • Don't fall in love with numbers or think the future will look like the past

  • Zero interest rates force one to think outside the box

  • Managing other people's money is a great business

  • More rules, more regulations, more compliance

  • Fire your bad clients

  • Don't promise returns

  • Most important question to ask a CTA: can you maintain your faith in your system when you're losing money?

  • You can't succumb to fear and abandon your system when you're losing

  • It's a huge edge if you can trade like a robot

  • If you trade too large, then you can't stick with it

  • Be mechanical, be robotic

  • What he learned in 1983 still works today

  • Website: Chesapeake Capital

  • Twitter: @rjparker09 … looks defunct, new one: @rjpjr12