Episode 70 ... Jeff Davis (76:31)
- Grew up in farm country two hours north of New York
- [Sounds like a two pack a day smoker]
- Didn't go to college
- Worked for US postal service, in processing center, night shift
- Voracious reader of magazines and newspapers at work
- 30 years old then [late 1990s?], married, had baby and mortgage
- Wanted to be his own boss, attracted to day trading
- $25,000 minimum to join an LLC trading firm
- 1999, Harbor Securities, firm blown up by one trader [not him]
- Didn't matter since he'd pretty much lost all his money anyway
- Saved more money, went to Bright Trading next
- Passed series 7, sat on a desk in the city, surrounded by traders
- Worked night shift at USPS, day traded during day, slept on train [wow]
- Was breakeven at Bright
- March 2000 he went full time [how about that timing?]
- Learned how not to lose while at Bright
- Learned how to short
- At Bright, you picked one stock and specialized in it
- Trade with the specialist, not against him
- Most of his problems were mainly him
- Made money in the morning, gave it back in the afternoon
- Sep. 11, 2001 last day of trading at office at Bright (next to Towers)
- Afterwards traded from home, lonely and hard but also good
- Guys who focused made money, people who didn't adapt were gone
- Got Lyme Disease, got sick, couldn't trade ... inspired him to automate
- You can't fiddle along with trading, bad things happen in life so you have to seize opportunities
- Exchanged his mentoring with a programmer who coded up a "tape reading tool"
- In 2005, Russell re-balance provided a lot of opportunities, he saw this
- His brother also a computer programmer, wrote a program to take advantage of index rebalancing
- Found programmers who also traded, they understood what he wanted
- Should have learned Fortran and Cobol in high school but didn't
- In his early 50s now, wouldn't even think about learning how to program now
- If you're in your 20s, definitely learn how to program, or find someone who can program for you
- Avoid the rabbit holes
- If you're searching for edge, you're definitely going to go down some rabbit holes (curve fitting, etc.)
- Nobody has ever run a bad backtest
- Trend following hard to do when you have a 30-40% win rate, people give up
- Nothing out of the can is going to work for everybody [or anybody]
- You have to work hardest on you .. your psychology
- Your strategy has to fit your personality
- He has now achieved "mature simplicity" ... it's not what you add, it's what you take away, less is more
- Find something where you can get size on, where you're confident
- You're in a risk business, you don't want to make a salaryman's wage
- His algorithm is now trading the S&P futures
- Mean reversion strategy -- most days are range days
- Range prediction algorithm -- knows probability of daily range, will fade spikes
- Yesterday's high or low is hit 88% of the time
- VWAP is the target on most of his trades
- When price gets away from VWAP, that's where he gets interested
- Range is a well-kept secret (Cooper, Crabel, Raschke have done lots of work on it)
- Be aware of "market regime" even though you're day trading
- Everything he does is based on Average True Range
- For example, a 22 handle move will revert at least 5 handles 70% of the time
- People can't stick with their systems
- Automated systems with tight stops don't work -- then you fiddle with the stops
- Old traders just do the same thing in the same way every day
- When you're trading right, it's boring, it's just execution
- Throw away what the crowd is doing
- So much trading wisdom from the past ("the trend is your friend") not relevant for day traders
- Don't be a hamster on a wheel
- You have to stick with your system, only possible if it fits your personality
- "Averaging is groping for the top or bottom"
- He doesn't scale, he just goes all in [scales out in two pieces however]
- He never chases
- If nothing sets up, don't push the button
- Picture a pool filled with sharks, that's what you're jumping into to make money
- Overtrading is the downfall of most failing traders
- Many are operating on tilt, jumping from strategy from strategy
- Always knows what he's risking, structured identically, dollar loss pre-determined
- No slippage on his stops in SP futures
- Traders always rode in last train car in case of derailment [always thinking about risk]
- Good traders are not jacks of all trades, they specialize
- Your strategy has to be about getting size on, otherwise there's no point
- "Single digit midgets"
- You get confidence from specializing
- Two regimes: expansion and contraction
- Tracks range of one minute SP to make sure his stop is "outside of the noise"
- He went from having tight stops to having wide stops -- to protect him from himself
- He knows the percentage of the time his wide stop will get hit -- he never fiddles with it
- With tight stops, he'd be liable to fiddle with them
- You need to be able to trade your system without feeling the urge to fiddle with it
- Once comfortable with strategy, with your stops, your dollar losses, then you can build up your size
- Exits in two pieces: first piece getting him 2.5 points on average, gets instant gratification, lets second piece take its time (averaging 7 points)
- Two to one win rate on his mean reversion trades [1R losers, 4.75R winners]
- He's out there to help people, esp. persistent guys who don't lose money but don't make big money
- Day trading is not a hobby, not an action junkie thing, it's a business, take it seriously
- Says some kind things to Aaron in parting
- Twitter: @Shaq48_Trading