Episode 71 ... Eric Scott Hunsader (61:57)
- Started programming in 1984
- Programming then not offered in college, so he taught himself
- Bought a book, C Primer Plus by Stephen Prata
- Had written an oscillator in Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet
- Still uses C to this day
- Used to read the Wall Street Journal, fascinated by that world
- Traded for two and half years, made enough to live and buy more computers
- Developed a love for writing software
- Would always second-guess his trading system
- Focused on writing code and quit trading
- Used to use floppy disc to archive data
- Sold that data online (long before the Internet)
- 1989, Tom Joseph's [of Advanced GET fame] company called Trading Techniques was a data customer, hired Hunsader
- Had real-time streaming charts using Compaq computer and a cellphone modem brick
- CQG bought Trading Techniques and Hunsader worked for them
- Three years later the Internet came along
- Internet Revolution was obvious to him
- CQG cold to Hunsader's idea of internet-based real-time streaming charting application
- Hunsader left and did it himself, wrote Java application called Livecharts, and desktop application called Qcharts
- Quote.com saw Hunsader's programs and gave him a bunch of stock for the software
- Within 18 months to two years went from 0 to 10,000 customers [and I was one of them!]
- Lycos wanted to buy Quote.com out
- Hunsader got Lycos stock in the buyout and he sold it all out in two weeks in December 1999 [great timing]
- Then he founded Nanex in 2000
- Wanted to design the ideal ticker plant, originally called it "Generation Five," with API on top of it
- 25,000 hours later he was comfortable releasing it to first customer in 2004, called NxCore feed
- Data Transmission Network (DTN) his partner then and still is
- No advertising for his NxCore feed
- Customers are hedge funds, institutional investors, high frequency traders, even the exchanges themselves
- Working with the NxCore API is a joy
- An experienced programmer can quickly learn to get exactly what he wants from the NxCore feed
- Other data feed providers normalize the data, NxCore doesn't
- Data compression, data transmission and graphical interface all the important bits
- "Serial latency cost"
- NxCore collects 20 billion data points per day, a petabyte raw
- 1000 terabytes is a petabyte
- Data is stored in triplicate in different locations
- ARCA first place where he noticed penny up and down step patterns, someone testing something
- Flash Crash the big event: May 6, 2010 ... SIP got crushed that afternoon
- SEC couldn't even assemble the data to analyze the Flash Crash
- Nanex could replay the entire day in real-time given their archived data
- Analyzed the Flash Crash ... went down a rabbit hole from which he still hasn't emerged
- ZeroHedge linked to the first analysis they posted about Flash Crash, then it all exploded
- SIP (Security Information Processor) -- consolidated feed, should be the only feed but exchanges sell direct data feeds independently [the bastards]
- US stock market has two data feeds, one is faster than the other
- Reg NMS (PDF) brought high frequency trading into being
- "Electronic trading brought down costs, high frequency trading brought down ethics"
- High frequency trading is risk-free arbitrage, only possible since the exchanges sell direct data feeds
- Exchanges collude with HFT by selling them direct data feed, which is faster
- HFT has a wink-nod relationship with regulators, fined from time to time, no real change happens
- HFT would be shut down if the regulators had any ethics
- If there were a central limit order book, HFT wouldn't exist
- Regulators wanted competition, multiple exchanges, tie it all together with SIP
- HFT can front-run orders on one exchange and cancel their orders on another exchange given their faster feeds
- When you talk about spreads, do you mean the spreads narrowest in a second or widest in a second? Can go from 1% to 1 cent in the space of second
- "Quote-stuffing" is a term Hunsader coined ... Quote-spam
- You slow down a data feed by quote-stuffing it ... more network traffic, like a tiny DDOS
- Retail customers all working off the SIP ... HFT ahead of them
- All about creating latency through quote-stuffing
- Put noise into the system in order to slow it down
- Must maintain latency tables ... must ping and test the limits all the time
- HFT is theft and market-rigging ... visit the Nanex office for two hours and watch them at work in real-time
- Everyone is a victim of HFT ... a billion paper cuts
- You see things now, you think it's a bad tick, but it's actually 1000 trades going off, pennying down and back up in a half second
- SEC says people shouldn't use stop orders anymore
- Any retail investor who trades at the open is eaten alive
- The regulators are corrupt, they get wined and dined by the firms they're going to work for when they leave the regulator
- SEC gave Hunsader a $750,000 whistleblower award
- The exchanges are the real culprits for selling a faster data feed for huge prices to HFT
- Larry Leibowitz (brother of comedian Jon Stewart) is CTO at the NYSE
- Leibowitz made fun of Hunsader as a conpiracy theorist on stage
- Bill O'Brien has also argued with Hunsader; O'Brien a smooth talker on TV but just a soundbite bullshit artist, has no facts
- Exchanges are SROs (self-regulated organizations) ... means they can't be sued
- Legal immunity exchanges enjoy has really destroyed things, the root of the problem
- You need someone knowledgeable and with integrity at the SEC, then HFT will go away
- Sarao being singled out like that [for the Flash Crash] is terrible
- Hunsader offered to work at SEC for free, won't create any new rules -- offer met with dead silence
- At least 500 trades within one second, spikes down and up, no net price change -- mini Flash Crashes happen all day long
- Suckering people with these "poke plays" [as I call them] ... retail can't take advantage of these because they don't execute at all exchanges
- These mini Flash Crashes never happened before 2007
- Anyone with a standing stop order is going to get killed these days
- Tight spreads being claimed by HFT are bogus given the constant mini Flash Crashes
- People at IEX have integrity
- All the exchanges' income comes from selling their faster data feeds to a select few
- www.nanex.net
- Twitter: @nanexllc