Episode 108 ... John Netto (55:25)
- Placed first sports bet at age 8
- He lost the first bets he placed but didn't discourage him
- Doesn't bet on sports anymore
- Father conservative, imparted importance of saving and investing
- Remembers the 1987 crash, he was 13 then, age 42 now
- Oliver Stone's movie Wall Street made strong impression on him
- Stone didn't realize he was turning kids onto the market instead of off
- He wasn't a bookie, he was a liquidity provider (in high school) [has a sense of humor]
- "The Netto Number" -- redefining alpha [they didn't explore this idea]
- Claims creating "Progressive Points Spread," not a binary outcome on sports betting
- Poor grades in school but worked hard on his bookie business
- Grew up in East Bay Area, Interstate 80
- Recorded Stardust casino opening odds delivered via radio
- Dec 1992 graduated high school and joined the Marines, 18 yo
- Classic underachiever, poor grades, low self esteem in high school, so Marines transformed him
- First assignment in Japan, in two years
- Learned Japanese language, passionate about it, 1994 (no Google translate)
- Assigned to Tokyo (embassy detail?), continued to study Japanese, two more years
- Came back to US in 1998
- Opened eTrade account
- Studied Chinese at Univ. of Washington
- Wouldn't say he's "fluent" in Japanese (smart to say that), it was just "effortless"
- 2200 hours to become "professionally competent" in Level 4 language (like Arabic, Chinese, Japanese)
- Had horrific sense of timing in the markets at first
- He had no process then, just impulsive
- Thought he should just do the opposite of what he naturally did
- Truth is that throwing darts at the wall with good money management, you'll do ok
- But held his losers, cut his profits short
- Left Marines in 2002, joined prop trading group
- Joe DiNapoli's book really helped him
- Still uses DiNapoli's Fibonacci ideas
- Managing risk not a problem for someone with Marine-like discipline once he had a process
- Trades futures markets and options
- Uses eight monitors
- "Protean" trader ... highly adaptable
- Developed multiple strategies: mean reversion, relative value, momentum, trend following, breakout systems -- uses all of these
- Key is knowing which strategies to apply to current market environment
- "Global Macro Edge" -- name of his book
- He's a fast talker
- Three keys to be successful trader: operations, analytics, execution
- (He has a lot of set-phrases memorized, clear military training)
- Hired programmers to automate things, on a contract basis
- His wife helps him organize things [she must be an angel]
- Hires people based on word of mouth
- Wants people certified on certain APIs
- "Prow-ess"
- When to lever things up and lever things down -- that's what it's all about
- "Market Regimes" -- technical, fundamental, sentiment
- Spends a lot of money on bespoke research (~$80K a year)
- Makes $500-600K a year trading [on how much capital? Netto says $1MM in capital]
- Spends $26,000 a year on his Bloomberg Terminal
- Uses CQG as well
- Great asymmetrical trades (paying 5 to 1) come with a great deal of discomfort
- Wrote a 580 page book, self-published? (yes, self-published)
- Low volatility for years now ... have to adapt to that
- Make your lack of capital your biggest strength, small positions can be an advantage
- Trades from home in Las Vegas
- Has patents on his process, but won't talk about it
- Global Macro guys can be brilliant but don't know how to manage risk
- Importance of getting out of your comfort zone
- Want to be a little bit afraid in a trade
- Be aware of your emotions, feelings, instincts
- Does daily "Qualitative Self-Assessment" -- preparation, focus, routine
- Journal everything constantly
- Be in tune with yourself
- You need to be uncomfortable to hold your winners
- You need to feel the nnnngggggg, but power through it [I know what he means]
- Overconfidence > complacency > mistakes > losses
- Respect the market
- Embrace your losses
- If you're not losing money, you're not taking the risk necessary to succeed
- Separate discomfort from fear, confidence from complacency
- Boy he talks fast, sort of an interesting rapid-fire military cadence throughout
- Twitter: @JohnNetto